Isn’t Arrogance Also a Sin?

If one believes in such a thing as sin as opposed to just choosing to do right vrs. wrong, I believe somewhere in the bible there’s a verse pertaining to arrogance. 

Isaiah 13:11

I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.

Definition of Arrogance:  (per my Websters II Dictionary)  Overbearing and self-important, Haughty, Insolent, Lofty, Lordly, Overbearing, Overweening, Presumptuous, Proud, Supercilious, Superior.

Last night at my restaurant where I work my second job, I had a customer come up to me after she got finished eating, and she asked me, without even bothering first to find out where I stand on belief, if I would be interested in joining her church’s bible study.

Presuming, I guess, that naturally I would be a believer in the same things she believes in.   Is this not arrogance?   To just assume the rest of the world believes as she does?  I looked her in the face and asked “what makes you think I’m a Christian?”  That surprised her and she looked very uncomfortable–and for awhile I felt badly for it, for making her feel uncomfortable.  But then I asked myself…didn’t she just do the same thing to me?  And yes, absolutely she did, and without giving it a moment’s thought that perhaps I didn’t believe as she does.

I think it’s arrogant also the belief that WE, human beings, are created in God’s image, and, oh I don’t know, the dolphin is not, or the Chimpanzee is not, or some alien on another planet billions of light years away is not.   But that’s another whole issue.  And so is the belief that we humans deserve something better than planet earth, and if we’re good enough we’ll get it after we die, but no other creatures will because they aren’t special, made in God’s image, etc. , and therefore don’t have souls.

Other examples of arrogance…

Deciding that your beliefs are the only right beliefs and going door to door or to other countries to try to pursuade others to agree with you and believe what you believe.

Or how about being so sure your beliefs are more valid and count more than someone else’s, that you’ll intrude against their wishes and beliefs important to them during their life, and baptise them to your beliefs after their death like the Mormon church does?   I’m sorry but for Mormons to baptize the little Jewish victim of the Holocaust Anne Frank…how arrogant can a religion get?

Anyway…no specific point to this.  Just still rather angry about being put on the spot last night at my job when that was the last thing I expected, wanted or should have had to deal with.

There is a time and a place.  If you want to recruit people for your bible studies you  really should 1. still show respect to those people for what they believe already and 2, try to restrict your audience to people you know are of the same beliefs you are, or people wanting to know, rather than be so arrogant as to presume other people’s beliefs aren’t right and they must believe just as you do.



The below article describes better than anything I have read  before, just exactly WHY I feel the desire to defend what I believe as a non-believer, and so I wanted to share.  Oh, and incidentally, I think it is WRONG that non-believers are deemed unelectable just for not believing in supernatural beings!


Reason Rally: A Secular Coming-Out Celebration

Nonbelievers are finding solidarity like never before
Published on March 14, 2012 by David Niose in Our Humanity, Naturally


In a show of solidarity that would have been unimaginable even just a few years ago, thousands will be flocking to the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on March 24 in celebration of secularity. The Reason Rally, a day-long event featuring notable entertainers and speakers and attracting busloads of nonbelievers from all over the country, could be a watershed moment for the secular movement. 

The lineup for the day includes a mix of entertainers, public intellectuals, and representatives from various secular groups. All events are free. The band Bad Religion will be performing, and the crowd will also hear from comedian Tim Minchin, popular skeptic and debunker James Randi, and author and scientist Richard Dawkins. Lawrence Krauss, author of “A Universe from Nothing,” whose ideas inspired Miley Cyrus to tweet on the issue (thereby sparking a backlash from enraged Christian fans), will also be on hand, along with many others, to address the secular festival.

 The event is not a protest and certainly not a religion-bashing affair, but instead can be best understood as a coming-out party for an entire movement. This has caused some to belittle the rally, suggesting that demographic unity around the notion of disbelief is itself nonsensical. Such critiques, however, only reflect a failure to understand what fuels the modern secular movement.

It is very true that many Americans—even many who are themselves nonreligious—see the idea of personal secularity as somewhat insignificant. That is, even many nonbelievers rarely consider emphasizing their religious skepticism—their secular worldview—as a primary means of identification. Ask a typical American nonbeliever to describe her basic lifestance, for example, and she may use terms like “liberal” and “feminist” and “environmentalist,” and perhaps numerous others, before reaching any identifier that would raise the issue of religious skepticism.

For many in recent years, however, personal secularity has become an increasingly important aspect of their identity, a clear way of describing one’s basic lifestance in the midst of a political and cultural landscape that has become an anti-intellectual wasteland. As such, the Reason Rally, as its name suggests, can be seen as a public manifestation of the secular trend that vehemently opposes America’s descent into irrationality.

Ironically, the primary root cause of the growing secular movement is the Religious Right. Because politically mobilized religious conservatives have become such a visible force in America, nonbelievers increasingly feel the need to assert themselves as a demographic. Whereas America’s seculars previously went about their daily business without openly displaying their naturalistic, reason-based identity, this indiscreet approach has required rethinking in the face of religious conservatives constantly claiming moral superiority, attacking church-state separation, and tainting public policy . 

Indeed, as the Religious Right has consistently grown in influence for over three decades—to the point that religious fundamentalists are now routinely elected to office in much of the country and are even serious contenders for the presidency (while open nonbelievers are unelectable)—many who are personally secular have come to realize that they can no longer keep their religious skepticism in the closet. As modern America listens to high-profile conservatives talk seriously about limiting access to not just abortion, but now even birth control, the notion of reason has suddenly become important, an affirmative means of standing up and pushing back against faith-based absurdity.

Thus, the Reason Rally.

Some, still feeling uncomfortable with open displays of secularity, insist that we should go back to those days when religion was simply a non-issue, when polite public discussions avoided questions of religion altogether. The Religious Right, however, has made that impossible, and therefore those who are indeed secular are increasingly standing up to demand that the over-the-top exaltation of religion stop, that Americans carefully consider how counterproductive it is to stigmatize secularity in the modern world. 

Thus, the cry of the seculars: We don’t believe. We won’t leave. Get used to it!

Hang on America: On March 24—rain or shine—Secular Americans are coming out.

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