Christian Blinders

When a Christian spouts off about all the other evidences and proofs out there that a biblical Jesus existed, other than, that is, the four gospels written by anonymous church-hired writers in the New Testament, demand they kindly provide these proofs.  Are they going to list Josephus or other Roman historians that either did not live during the time of Jesus or did not actually write about him per se, but rather the appearance of the new religion Christianity.

It is largely accepted that the few passages in Josephus that mention Jesus were added in later, as the paragraphs are out of context with the sentences that come before and after.   And even if a historian is found who lived during Jesus’ alleged lifetime and did write about him, all that proves is that a person named Jesus existed.  I believe in that part of the world, it is not an uncommon name.

All I ask for is evidence.  Christianity lost credibility for me when I realized that the bible is not true.  When I figured out that there were verses clearly put into it not because they were god’s teachings but because some religious group wanted to dictate certain laws and rules over the common people, and especially to subjugate certain people, most especially women, as is typical of all man-made, patriarchal religions.

Once I figured out that some verses in the bible couldn’t possibly be from god or god inspired, then all of a sudden the entire book became suspect.  How am I, with my puny little mind, supposed to weed out what is really from god and what isn’t really from god?   Between that and the blatant errors in the bible (god the all powerful can’t smite chariots made of iron?  Hello???), the bible stopped being, in my eyes, anything real.

Some Christians readily admit the bible is nothing more than a fairy tale or myths–legends, etc.  But they still believe.  I fail to see how the religion can have a leg to stand on if the bible is not true, if the story of Adam and Eve and original sin is not true?  Without that story of original sin there ceases to be a need for religion, or god, or saviors.  There ceases to be a need for Christianity.  This is the only reason why the Christian bible still has the old testament included–because they need that all important absurd story of talking snakes and the original sin.

Talk to a Christian, they will tell you about Christian writers who disagree.  Well, no surprise there.  I say, read the testimonials of learned Christians–men and women who went to Seminary and taught this stuff and knew the bible inside out and STILL unconverted–lost their faith–stopped believing.   These are the people I would be interested in hearing from.  Not the people who just say the same things I had to hear over and over and over–repeating the same well worn pages and hi-lighted verses, and ignoring completely the other three quarters of this book.

Before a Christian has the right to tell me their god is good, they need to read the entire bible.  They need to tell me how a good and loving deity does what the god of the old testament does, and answer the illogic of an all knowing god deliberately creating flawed human beings, and then punishing them for being flawed.


6 comments on “Christian Blinders

    • Well, back in the day I didn’t need to ask because I felt I had a personal relationship with him. I believed without question. However, now that I understand where those warm and fuzzy feelings come from, I no longer have to have the delusion of an imaginary friend or the weight of a all seeing tyrant of a god watching my every move.

      Ask Jesus himself? I wrote a letter to Santa Claus once. I suspect I’d get about the same kind of answer. That’s what imaginary beings do. Before Jesus was invented there was Mithras. In fact most of Catholicism (sp?) is inspired by Mithraism, right down to communion and bread symbolizing the body and wine the blood. Mithras was a sun god. The only son of god. The good shepherd, the way the truth and the life. He was born of a virgin, died and three days later resurrected. He was a myth, and he was around thousands of years before Christianity. He was widely worshipped in Rome by important men and soldiers/commander types. The only fall back to Mithraism–he was for men only. It follows that if one invented a similar sun-god with all the same attributes, but one that opened his arms to everyone, that new sun god would displace the old sun god in popularity, and so he did. Many old Christian churches were built on top of Mithra churches, and in fact old Mithra signs and symbols are still found in many of them. The cross with the sun disc–is pagan. Bishops wearing pointy hats–Mithras. Sacrifice in the blood–Mithras. The bull was Mithras and worshipers would stand under a grate while the bull was slit open and blood would pour down, washing away their sins, baptizing them in blood. Why do you suppose we have all these lovely Christian songs about being washed in the blood? What IS the big blood fixation? Why does Jesus have a halo and why do old pictures of Jesus depict a sun with rays over his head? Because he is a sun god–yet another manifestation of sun worship that has existed in so many forms since Horus and Egypt. Should I ask Mithras himself if he’s the real deal? Why isn’t he, and Jesus is? Mithras too had millions of followers equally sure their god was the ONE and they were saved because of his sacrifice.

      Or do you believe what I was taught once–that SATAN put all these earlier pagan sun-god faiths on earth before the coming of the REAL son of god to confuse people so that when the REAL son of god came, they wouldn’t recognize him from all the fakes? In my opinion that explanation why we keep seeing the same story–virgin birth, star above manger, shepherds and angels, three wise men, ministry, 12 disciples, crucifixion of some kind, resurrection three days later–again and again and again through one pagan faith after another. is as absurd as saying god planted dinosaur bones in the ground to “test us.”

      It would just as absurd for me to ask Jesus himself as it would for me to ask Zeus, or Hercules, or Apollo, or Horus, or Krishna or Attis or any of these other sun gods who came before. No thank you. I would prefer to believe in science, and that which is supported by evidence, proofs and results.

  1. “Christianity lost credibility for me when I realized that the bible is not true. When I figured out that there were verses clearly put into it not because they were god’s teachings but because some religious group wanted to dictate certain laws and rules over the common people, and especially to subjugate certain people, most especially women, as is typical of all man-made, patriarchal religions.” What verses are you referring to?

    • 1 Corinthians 14:34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.

      Titus 2:5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

      1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    • Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc.

      Organized religion always has been and remains the greatest enemy of women’s rights. In the Christian-dominated Western world, two bible verses in particular sum up the position of women:

      “I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”

      –Genesis 3:16

      By this third chapter of Genesis, woman lost her rights, her standing–even her identity, and motherhood became a God-inflicted curse degrading her status in the world.

      In the New Testament, the bible decrees:

      “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

      –1 Tim. 2:11-14

      One bible verse alone, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18) is responsible for the death of tens of thousands, if not millions, of women. Do women and those who care about them need further evidence of the great harm of Christianity, predicated as it has been on these and similar teachings about women?

      Church writer Tertullian said “each of you women is an Eve . . . You are the gate of Hell, you are the temptress of the forbidden tree; you are the first deserter of the divine law.”

      Martin Luther decreed: “If a woman grows weary and at last dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing, she is there to do it.”

      Such teachings prompted 19th-century feminist Elizabeth Cady Stanton to write: “The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of woman’s emancipation.”

      The various Christian churches fought tooth and nail against the advancement of women, opposing everything from women’s right to speak in public, to the use of anesthesia in childbirth (since the bible says women must suffer in childbirth) and woman’s suffrage. Today the most organized and formidable opponent of women’s social, economic and sexual rights remains organized religion. Religionists defeated the Equal Rights Amendment. Religious fanatics and bullies are currently engaged in an outright war of terrorism and harassment against women who have abortions and the medical staff which serves them. Those seeking to challenge inequities and advance the status of women today are fighting a massive coalition of fundamentalist Protestant and Catholic churches and religious groups mobilized to fight women’s rights, gay rights, and secular government.

      Why do women remain second-class citizens? Why is there a religion-fostered war against women’s rights? Because the bible is a handbook for the subjugation of women. The bible establishes woman’s inferior status, her “uncleanliness,” her transgressions, and God-ordained master/servant relationship to man. Biblical women are possessions: fathers own them, sell them into bondage, even sacrifice them. The bible sanctions rape during wartime and in other contexts. Wives are subject to Mosaic-law sanctioned “bedchecks” as brides, and male jealousy fits and no-notice divorce as wives. The most typical biblical labels of women are “harlot” and “whore.” They are described as having evil, even satanic powers of allurement. Contempt for women’s bodies and reproductive capacity is a bedrock of the bible. The few role models offered are stereotyped, conventional and inadequate, with bible heroines admired for obedience and battle spirit. Jesus scorns his own mother, refusing to bless her, and issues dire warnings about the fate of pregnant and nursing women.

      There are more than 200 bible verses that specifically belittle and demean women. Here are just a few:

      (See Woe To The Women: The Bible Tells Me So for a more comprehensive list)
      Genesis 2:22 Woman created from Adam’s rib
      3:16 Woman cursed: maternity a sin, marriage a bondage
      19:1-8 Rape virgins instead of male angels

      Exodus 20:17 Insulting Tenth Commandment, considering a wife to be property
      21:7-11 Unfair rules for female servants, may be sex slaves
      22:18 “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live”
      38:8 Women may not enter tabernacle they must support

      Leviticus 12:1-14 Women who have sons are unclean 7 days
      12:4-7 Women who have daughters are unclean 14 days
      15:19-23 Menstrual periods are unclean
      19:20-22 If master has sex with engaged woman, she shall be scourged

      Numbers 1:2 Poll of people only includes men
      5:13-31 Barbaric adulteress test
      31:16-35 “Virgins” listed as war booty

      Deuteronomy 21:11-14 Rape manual
      22:5 Abomination for women to wear men’s garments, vice-versa
      22:13-21 Barbaric virgin test
      22:23-24 Woman raped in city, she & her rapist both stoned to death
      22:28-29 Woman must marry her rapist
      24:1 Men can divorce woman for “uncleanness,” not vice-versa
      25:11-12 If woman touches foe’s penis, her hand shall be cut off

      Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah’s nameless daughter sacrificed
      19:22-29 Concubine sacrificed to rapist crowd to save man

      I Kings 11:1-4 King Solomon had 700 wives & 300 concubines

      Job 14:1-4 “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one . . .”

      Proverbs 7:9-27 Evil women seduce men, send them to hell
      11:22 One of numerous Proverbial putdowns

      Isaiah 3:16-17 God scourges, rapes haughty women

      Ezekiel 16:45 One of numerous obscene denunciations

      Matthew 24:19 “[woe] to them that are with child”

      Luke 2:22 Mary is unclean after birth of Jesus

      I Corinthians 11:3-15 Man is head of woman; only man in God’s image
      14:34-35 Women keep in silence, learn only from husbands

      Ephesians 5:22-33 “Wives, submit . . .”

      Colossians 3:18 More “wives submit”

      I Timothy 2:9 Women adorn selves in shamefacedness
      2:11-14 Women learn in silence in all subjection; Eve was sinful, Adam blameless

      Why should women–and the men who honor women–respect and support religions which preach women’s submission, which make women’s subjugation a cornerstone of their theology?

      When attempts are made to base laws on the bible, women must beware. The constitutional principle of separation between church and state is the only sure barrier standing between women and the bible.

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