What Came First? The Chicken or The Egg?


Creationism:

Obviously the chicken would come first because it would be the source of the egg.  Actually there would have to be a first chicken and a first rooster to accomplish the first fertilized egg resulting in a chick.  So the answer is, like with everything else, a full formed first chicken came first–created by the great I AM.

Evolutionism:

Obviously a living animal would be necessary in order to give birth to offspring, so the real question is, when did the first chicken-like bird first appear on the earth?

The theory of evolution states that species change over time via mutation and sexual reproduction. Since DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) can be modified only before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken eggs. These eggs then hatched into chickens that inbred to produce a living population.[12][13] Hence, in this light, both the chicken and the structure of its egg evolved simultaneously from birds that, while not of the same exact species, gradually became more and more like present-day chickens over time.

Not any mutation in one individual can be considered as constituting a new species. A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases; this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears. The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl.[14] Assuming the evidence bears out, a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the chicken egg, based on the second definition, came before the chicken.

This implies that the egg existed long before the chicken, but that the chicken egg did not exist until an arbitrary threshold was crossed that differentiates a modern chicken from its ancestors. Since this arbitrary distinction cannot be made until after the egg has hatched, one would have to first find the original chicken, then from this find the first egg it laid.

A simple view is that at whatever point the threshold was crossed and the first chicken was hatched, it had to hatch from an egg. The type of bird that laid that egg, by definition, was on the other side of the threshold and therefore not technically a chicken — it may be viewed as a proto-chicken or ancestral chicken of some sort, from which a genetic variation or mutation occurred that thus resulted in the egg being laid containing the embryo of the first chicken. In this light, de facto, that the argument is settled and the egg had to have come first.

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5 comments on “What Came First? The Chicken or The Egg?

      • How does “abracadabra instant life out of non-life which leads to a chicken millions of years later” make any more sense? Just because we’re told that magic can happen in years with a lot of zeros after it (conveniently, so we can never prove otherwise) doesn’t make it true, nor does it make it at all logical.

        Just because today’s revered authorities wear lab coats instead of robes and religious symbols does not mean that they can’t also be full of it. Quacks often use some knowledge of real science in order to gain the blind trust of the masses who will then believe whatever they say–no matter how full of BS it is. There’s real science and there’s pseudoscience. Evolutionism is pseudoscience.

      • Evolution is fact and has been and is visible all around us in the world today. It’s not magic. I find it absurd that anyone can think a supernatural being would just zap life into existence and actually…believe it.

        You think evolution is “pseudoscience?” Have you not noticed in America that white people in the past 10 years have become less and less? By the year 2020 white people will be a minority in this country. Partly that’s due to the fact that we’re getting less people from Europe migrating here. We’re getting Hispanics and Asians and people from the middle east. But also it’s due to the fact that more and more people are interracial marrying. Kids aren’t white or black, or white or Asian, or white or Hispanic, but they are a mix, and so whatever kids they have area also a mix. Who knows, maybe one day not long from now there won’t be the races we see today. Maybe races will merge. Maybe in the future there will be just one race or two races, rather than how things are today. Native Americans are becoming less and less. White people are becoming less and less. Who knows, maybe down the road (hopefully) prejudice and bigotry will also become less and less.

        My point is, this IS evolution and it is happening in the world right now, today. It is not psuedoscience, it is fact. Research has shown cells of plants and animals and people–all of us are connected–all of us have similarities to each other. Evolution has been proven–it is no longer a theory, and you can think your mystery guy in the sky did it all in a blink and on a whim as much as you please; at least Evolution has facts and evidence and results backing it up. Creationism has NOTHING. It hasn’t even earned the right really, to call itself a theory.

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